Sunday, February 16, 2020
Voters Trust Paper Over Electronic Technology
Voting is the backbone of a democracy. And if citizens are to believe in their democracy, they must believe the counting of votes is done properly and correctly. Sadly, most Americans don't believe the machines currently being used in most of the country can be counted on to deliver an accurate count.
I understand that people have become used to getting results quickly after the polls close, and they like that. The old way of hand counting each paper ballot sometimes delayed tabulating the results for many hours. That method could be trusted (and is trusted by 57% of voters), but in this fast-paced world it is unlikely to be accepted (and requires a massive amount of manpower).
But the computer voting machines used in many counties are not trusted. People think they can be hacked (and this has been shown to be true by hackers). Additionally, they have no paper trail, so they cannot be a recount if it's suspected a machine produced a faulty result. A faulty machine will just reproduce its initial results no matter how many times it is asked to recount.
So, what is to be done to restore voter faith in the counting of ballots? There are two solutions.
The first is to make the computer voting machine produce a paper ballot (which the voter can check for accuracy and then drop in a ballot box). If there is any questions about the machine's result, those paper ballots can be recounted. About 71% of voters say they would trust such a system.
I think an even better solution is to vote on paper ballots, and then insert those ballots into a scanning counting machine. The machine cannot be hacked, the results will be known within a few minutes after the polls close, and you have the paper ballots if a recount is needed. As a precinct judge, I have used this system in the past and it works very well. About 69% of voters say they would trust such a system.
Electronic machines with no paper trail are unacceptable. Voters don't trust them. All counties need to stop using them. Trust in the counting of votes is just too critical in our democracy.
The chart above is from the Morning Consult Poll -- done between February 7th and 9th of a national sample of 1,996 registered voters, with a 2 point margin of error.
Tuesday, October 01, 2019
Can Our Electronic Voting Machines Be Trusted?
I'm an older voter, and I worked at the polls in quite a few elections. I can remember working at a polling site that used paper ballots. It was 3:00am, before all the votes were counted in that election (the 1976 presidential election), and that was in a small rural precinct. Today, electronic voting machines are used, and the results of the election are known just a few minutes after the polls close in each precinct. There's no doubt that the modern machines save time, especially for the poll workers. But the question now is different -- Can those electronic machines be trusted? In far too many precincts, the machines are old, vulnerable to hacking, and have no paper trail.
The following article should give us pause about the sanctity of our voting process. It is by A.J. Vicens at Mother Jones. He writes:
A report issued Thursday by some of the country’s leading election security experts found that voting machines used in dozens of state remain vulnerable to hacks and manipulations, warning that that without continued efforts to increase funding, upgrade technology, and adopt of voter-marked paper ballot systems, “we fear that the 2020 presidential elections will realize the worst fears only hinted at during the 2016 elections: insecure, attacked, and ultimately distrusted.”
The 47-page report is the product of researchers who organized a shakedown of voting machines at the annual DefCon conference, one of world’s biggest information security gatherings frequented by hackers, government officials, and industry workers. First incorporated into DefCon in 2017 with the aim of improving voting machine security, this year’s version of the now-annual “Voting Machine Hacking Village” assembled over 100 machines and let hackers loose to find and exploit their vulnerabilities. While election officials have criticized the effort’s utility as a testing ground, deriding it as a “pseudo environment,” some have seen value in letting machines’ flaws become more known and potentially lead to security improvements.
“Once again, Voting Village participants were able to find new ways, or replicate previously published methods, of compromising every one of the devices in the room,” the authors wrote, pointing out that every piece of assembled equipment is certified for use in at least one US jurisdiction. The report’s authors, some of whom have been involved with election machine security research going back more than a decade, noted that in most cases the participants tested voting equipment “they had no prior knowledge of or experience” in a “challenging setting ” with less time and resources than attackers would be assumed to marshal.
Saturday, September 22, 2018
Most Voters Don't Really Trust Electronic Voting Machines
Most counties here in Texas now use electronic voting machines, and most of them don't have a paper readout so the voter can check their votes (and to provide a way to recount those votes in case of a machine malfunction). That's a problem, and voters know it. A new poll shows that voters don't really trust the electronic machines. They believe it makes voting less safe. Only 36% say those machines making voting more safe, while 56% say they make voting less safe -- a significant gap of 20 points.
Voters do trust paper ballots though. About 68% say paper ballots make voting more safe, while only 26% say they make voting less safe -- an even larger gap of 42 points! Obviously, going to paper ballots would increase voter trust in our electoral system.
I understand why counties like the electronic machines. It makes counting the votes much faster and workers don't have to spend most of the night counting votes in a large precinct. But there are some compromises to be had.
We could use a paper ballot that can be electronically counted (and recounted by hand if there is any doubt as to the electronic count). We can also require electronic machines to have a paper printout. That printout could also be counted by hand if there is a recount (or question of machine malfunction).
County officials are right to try and find a way to speed up vote counting, but they have gone too far in many cases -- and that is hurting voter trust in our electoral system (which is necessary in a democracy). We need to outlaw any voting machines that don't at least have a paper printout.
The charts above reflect the results of a NPR / Marist Poll -- done between September 5th and 9th of a national sample of 949 adults, with a 3.6 point margin of error.
Thursday, March 29, 2018
Voting Machines MUST Generate A Paper Ballot
I am very familiar with the machine -- both as a voter and a poll worker. However, I was disappointed when I recently moved to a new county in Texas, and found my new county was also using this same machine (as are thousands of counties across this nation).
Why was I disappointed? Because the machine has a fatal flaw in my opinion. It does not generate a paper readout that shows the voter how their vote was counted. The voter just has to hope their vote was counted and reported correctly.
This is bad for several reasons. 1) It wouldn't be known if a crooked election judge or worker tampered with the machine to miscount votes. 2) Machines do make mistakes. 3) It is impossible to do a recount in a close election, because no matter how many times you ask it, the machine will spit out the same numbers.
Now, there is another reason to mistrust the machine's results -- the interference by another nation in our electoral system (Russia). We now know that Russians hacked into the electoral systems of at least 21 states in the 2016 election. It is believed that they only got into voter rolls and were not able to change any vote totals. But will they be better at their hacking in 2018 or 2020? Will they then have the ability to alter vote totals to suit themselves?
Some are calling for a return to paper ballots that are hand-counted. I wouldn't like to see that. I worked at the polls when paper ballots were used, and counting them took forever. It was a rural precinct that had only a few hundred ballots, and it still took until about 3 am before the ballots were counted and ready to be reported. I can imagine it would be a nightmare for a urban or suburban precinct with a few thousand voters.
There is another solution. Make sure all machines print a paper ballot that can be saved and recounted if there is a question of the validity of the originally reported results. This can be done in two ways.
1) Voters could vote on a paper ballot that is then fed into an electronic counter. Those paper ballots could always be recounted by hand if there is any question.
2) Make sure all electronic voting machines print out a record of how the voter cast his/her vote. The voter could check the printout, make sure it's correct, and then put it in a locked ballot box. Those paper printouts could be hand-counted if there is any question.
It doesn't matter which way is chosen by county governments. Both would work. But it is now imperative that all electronic voting machines print out the results. It is the only way to insure our electoral system is correct, and the only way to restore voters faith in our electoral system -- especially in light of Russian electoral hacking, and a president that refuses to acknowledge the hacking even took place.
Saturday, October 27, 2012
Has GOP Been Stealing Votes For Years ?
Here are some excerpts from an article by Denis G. Campbell and Charley James in the UK Progressive (and I urge you to read the whole article). The article claims that as many as 10% of Democratic votes are being switched to Republican votes in large precincts (it's only in large precincts because it would be too obvious in smaller precincts), and that this has been going on for years. This 20% change in votes is enough to swing a close election (but would fall short in a landslide election like 2008).
Friday, October 12, 2012
Do You Believe Our Elections Are Honest ?
In the countries classified as "full democracies" (Western-style democracies), that percentage went way up and most of those countries had a pretty good majority believing in the honesty of their own elections. Except for three of those "full democracies" -- and wouldn't you know it, the United States is one of those three countries (followed closely by South Korea and the Czech Republic).
In the United States, only about 48% of the population believes our elections are honest (44% of women and 52% of men). It would have been interesting to see how this broke down between the political parties, but the poll didn't examine that (being more interested in the gender gap on this question). I suspect a large part of both parties believe we have an honesty problem in elections.
I must admit that I am one of those people who has some serious doubts about the honesty of a lot of the elections in this country -- at all levels. First, we don't treat all our political parties equally. Some get no media coverage and are shut out of political events like debates (which means most people aren't exposed to their candidates or their ideas). This violates the very idea of fair elections.
Second, in most communities the election process is controlled by the dominant party in that area. This does not necessarily mean they are all dishonest, but it does let them do little things like not putting enough polling places, polling booths, or ballots in ares that they believe will not give them many votes -- all things that can easily be dismissed as honest errors.
But the most important reason I don't trust our elections, is the use of electronic voting machines -- especially those that do not generate a paper trail. Here is Amarillo, electronic voting machines without any paper trail are used. This means no voter can be 100% sure the machine counted the votes correctly as they were cast, no recount can be done in questionable races (as could be done with paper ballots or paper voting receipts), and it is very unlikely that any machine mistakes would be discovered (even if suspected).
The Republicans are in charge of the electronic machines here, but they would be just as untrustworthy if the Democrats were in charge of them. The simple facts are that machines do make mistakes, and these electronic voting machines are too easily corruptible -- at all levels. They can be tampered with while they are being built, while they are being prepared for an election, and even at the election site. Many computer experts have repeatedly shown this is an easy task to accomplish, and because of that, all electronic machines should print two receipts showing how the votes were cast -- one for the voter, and another to be placed in a ballot box in case a recount must be done.
And just to give you Democrats out there something to worry about, it seems that the voting machines used in some states are controlled by former executives of BAIN CAPITAL, who are supporters of Willard. Here is how the blog The Daily Dolt puts it:
- H.I.G. was founded by Tony Tamer, a former Bain employee and bundler for Mitt Romney’s campaign.
- Of H.I.G.’s 22 American directors, 21 donated to Mitt Romney’s 2012 presidential campaign. One person made no political donations at all; one person donated to both Mitt Romney and Barack Obama; the remaining 20 directors donated exclusively to Mitt Romney in 2012. (See below for links to donations.)
- Of these 22 American directors, seven of them (nearly one-third) are former Bain employees. Now, we should note (as a reader helpfully pointed out), this is Bain & Co., where Mitt Romney used to work way back when and then left in order to start the affiliated Bain Capital. The connection is therefore a little more tenuous, but we still find H.I.G.’s overwhelming allegiance and financial support of the Romney campaign surprising (not that it’s surprising that a private equity company would lean Republican, but this level of support is pretty unusual).
- Four of H.I.G.’s directors, Tony Tamer, John Bolduc, Douglas Berman, and Brian D. Schwartz, are Romney bundlers along with former Bain and H.I.G. manager Brian Shortsleeve.
- Two of H.I.G.’s managing directors, Douglas F. Berman and Brian D. Schwartz, were present at the $50,000 per plate fundraiser where Mitt Romney made his notorious ”47%” comments.
- H.I.G. is the 11th largest donor to Mitt Romney’s campaign. H.I.G. employees have given $338,000 to the Romney campaign, outpacing even Bain Capital itself, which gave $268,000.
- (Sidenote: Are we the only ones to notice that every single one of H.I.G.’s 22 American directors is white and male? Not related to the Mitt Romney issue, but sheesh.)
Friday, October 01, 2010
New Election - Same Old Problem
Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Was The Massachusetts Election Stolen ?

It's over in Massachusetts and soon they will be sending a Republican to the Senate to fill the seat of Edward Kennedy. But the excellent web site Black Box Voting has raised some questions about the accuracy of the election returns. It seems there is a significant discrepancy between hand counted ballots and electronically counted ballots.
Monday, October 05, 2009
Are "Super-Precincts" The Wave Of The Future ?

I have to admit the concept of "super-precinct" voting is an interesting concept. In this type of voting, a voter could go to any precinct in his county of residence to vote instead of having to vote in his home precinct. This would obviously make voting much more convenient for voters.
Tuesday, October 14, 2008
E-Voting Can't Be Trusted !
In another week, voting will start in one of the most important elections we have had in many years. With our economy in the dump, our healthcare system broken and a never-ending war being waged in Iraq for no good reason, it is extremely important that every single vote be counted just as it was cast. But will that happen?Tuesday, January 08, 2008
Electronic Voting Machines Cannot Be Trusted

The electronic voting machine pictured above is like the ones that are used here in Potter County. Potter County voters do not have the option of using anything else. You either vote on this machine or you don't vote.
If you are a regular reader of this blog, then you know how I feel about this machine. I simply don't trust it. It does not have a paper trail, which means there is no way to double-check the election results.
Frankly, it does not matter whether the election workers are honest or not, if the machine malfunctions, there is no way to ever be sure the votes have been counted correctly.
I know that the county uses these machines to speed up the vote count. However, there are other ways to do this. There are other electronic counters that actually count paper ballots, and can report the results of an election just as quickly. Also, if there are ever any questions about the electronic count, the paper ballots are there and can be hand-counted.
Voters and candidates can trust a machine that counts paper ballots, because these ballots can be re-counted. But how can anyone trust a machine with no paper trail of any kind? I don't care how great you think these computer voting machines are, they just can't be trusted.
Machines malfunction. That is just a fact of life. Voting is too important to be trusted to a machine prone not only to malfunctions, but also to hacking.
We must get rid of these machines and get a system the voters can trust, even if we have to go back to handcounting ballots. PDiddie over at Brains and Eggs has written an excellent post on this matter, and I urge you to read it.
What good is a system that can't be trusted?
Thursday, November 08, 2007
How Can I Trust The Machine ?

Sunday, May 13, 2007
Voting In Potter County








