Thanks for that last link, CT. It seems to prove what a top-down "movement" the teabaggers really are (since it had a FreedomWorks rep. patrolling the crowd and weeding out racist posters).
"Thanks for that last link, CT. It seems to prove what a top-down "movement" the teabaggers really are (since it had a FreedomWorks rep. patrolling the crowd and weeding out racist posters)." [Emphasis added]
From the article:
"Adam Brandon, a spokesman for FreedomWorks, said his organization did not instruct protesters to limit their messages to fiscal slogans, but he did patrol the crowd and threw out a few protesters carrying signs depicting Obama as Adolf Hitler." [Emphasis added]
I had heard a couple of times that Beethoven was Black, but I never knew that Hitler was too!
I guess that means that all those people who depicted George W. Bush as Hitler were crypto-racists.
If, by "those posters," you mean the Obama=Hitler posters, no. Perhaps posters depicting Obama as Idi Amin might have racial connotation, but not Hitler.
The problem with sorting this all out is that Barack Obama is our first bi-racial President. If equating him with Hitler has racial connotation (somehow referring to his Caucasian heritage), then so do the Bush=Hitler posters, or more recently, the Walker=Hitler posters in Wisconsin.
Anti-Obama posters, no matter how vitriolic, aren't necessariily racist. As Freud once said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
If, on the other hand, by "those posters," you mean the ones in the "Thresholds" picture - then yeah, they have racial connotation; some more overt than others. But that's not the question. The question is: How representative are such posters of the Tea Party movement.
You and the folks at leftwingconspiracy.com seem to think they epitomize the movement. However, your evidence is anecdotal. The analysis done by Emily Ekins last fall (which as far as I know is the only scientific, or even quasi-scientific study done) indicates otherwise.
Painting the entire Tea Party with the broad brush of racism is an all too convenient way of shutting down debate altogether.
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The Tea Parties and the gun-rights fanatics are, for the most part, racists. No question in my mind.
ReplyDeleteThis reminds of of something I saw recently:
ReplyDeleteIf a Liberal And A Tea Partier Had Been Aboard The Titanic
A rather silly story, CT. But it doesn't change the basic fact shown by the pictures.
ReplyDeletePerhaps not, but this analysis from last fall does.
ReplyDeleteCherry picking a few signs doesn't prove anything. All it does is avoid addressing the real issue, not unlike the "rather silly story" illustrates.
Thanks for that last link, CT. It seems to prove what a top-down "movement" the teabaggers really are (since it had a FreedomWorks rep. patrolling the crowd and weeding out racist posters).
ReplyDelete"Thanks for that last link, CT. It seems to prove what a top-down "movement" the teabaggers really are (since it had a FreedomWorks rep. patrolling the crowd and weeding out racist posters)." [Emphasis added]
ReplyDeleteFrom the article:
"Adam Brandon, a spokesman for FreedomWorks, said his organization did not instruct protesters to limit their messages to fiscal slogans, but he did patrol the crowd and threw out a few protesters carrying signs depicting Obama as Adolf Hitler." [Emphasis added]
I had heard a couple of times that Beethoven was Black, but I never knew that Hitler was too!
I guess that means that all those people who depicted George W. Bush as Hitler were crypto-racists.
Do you really think those posters had no racial connotation?
ReplyDeleteIf, by "those posters," you mean the Obama=Hitler posters, no. Perhaps posters depicting Obama as Idi Amin might have racial connotation, but not Hitler.
ReplyDeleteThe problem with sorting this all out is that Barack Obama is our first bi-racial President. If equating him with Hitler has racial connotation (somehow referring to his Caucasian heritage), then so do the Bush=Hitler posters, or more recently, the Walker=Hitler posters in Wisconsin.
Anti-Obama posters, no matter how vitriolic, aren't necessariily racist. As Freud once said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
If, on the other hand, by "those posters," you mean the ones in the "Thresholds" picture - then yeah, they have racial connotation; some more overt than others. But that's not the question. The question is: How representative are such posters of the Tea Party movement.
You and the folks at leftwingconspiracy.com seem to think they epitomize the movement. However, your evidence is anecdotal. The analysis done by Emily Ekins last fall (which as far as I know is the only scientific, or even quasi-scientific study done) indicates otherwise.
Painting the entire Tea Party with the broad brush of racism is an all too convenient way of shutting down debate altogether.